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Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.05.11 04:36:00 -
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Know that if you were worth the ammunition, which you are not, the State could annihilate your uprising in the blink of an eye. As it is, you're not even a blip on their radar. And by the morrow after your rally, you won't even be a blurb in the back pages of the morning paper. There isn't a section dedicated to clowns.
Talk of ancestors? Laughable. The war with the Gallente ended just a hundred years ago. Our secession from the Federation began just a hundred years before that. You make us sound like a doddering old empire, decrepit, stagnate and molding from disrepair. Please. You make a poor comedian.
You can't concoct some past mythical golden age just to contrast it with your phantom grievances for the present.
We are the wealthiest and most advanced nation amongst the four powers.
We did not inherit this from yesteryear. We made it what it is today.
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |

Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:15:00 -
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Quote: Good to hear you won't be shooting them, Abel-haan. For your sake.
If you are itching to protect those looking to reform their governments through populist, grassroots movements, the Federation is better place to call home. That is not how we effect change in the State. Those who want the power to shape their environment must sit at the top.
Climb your way there.
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |

Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.05.11 10:10:00 -
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Quote: And yet it sounds so much like how the State was formed in the first place.
Populist movements? Not at all.
History reveals that the deal makers and deal breakers were the elites, the heads of prominent corporations. They were the ones who ultimately decided and guided the fate of the Caldari people. The only notable action not ostensibly orchestrated by the elite was when the fuse to secession was lit. That was done by a handful of rogue citizens. And they only managed to set off a chain of events toward an end that the mega-corporations wanted anyway.
The elite had already constructed a de facto State outside of the reach of the Federation. The question that was left to be answered was whether its official establishment would be a peaceful or a bloody one. I do not mean to diminish the strong nationalistic sentiments of the era, nor suggest that people did not feel a stake in the goings on of those times.
But I do deny the notion that this was an anomalous moment in Caldari history. No, it was business as usual. The corporate system gave purpose, structure and satisfaction to our lives and in return, we obeyed it. Hand in hand, we had begun building the foundations of the State some 300 years before the Federation was even formed. And when that work was threatened, we banded together and trounced those who were in our way.
That's all there is to it.
It was no great moment of humanist revelation or populist upswell.
It was just the corporate system at work.
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |

Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.05.11 19:37:00 -
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Quote: An interesting justification. Considering your organization is defending the Amarr Empire from the Star Fraction as opposed to taking care of this situation back in Caldari Space.
Your true loyalty shows quite clearly.
What situation? A handful of lunatics jabbering on a soapbox hardly constitutes a situation.
Really, your puerile line of reasoning should have died on the school yard. Though, for some people, their minds did not leave the cradle when their bodies left for pods. There is nothing sequitur from my exposition on Caldari history to the criticism that I am operating in concert with loyalists from my own nation's ally.
It is all too transparent you took the chance to jab for the sake of jabbing.
Good luck to you on landing one that actually makes sense, substantively.
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |

Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.05.15 12:46:00 -
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Your moralistic attitudes indicate that some other nation is better suited for you, Sidrat Flush. The State is not a place you where you can go around saying it "must" do this or that. Not as an average citizen. If you want to change the State, do it after you reach the top of the ladder.
For the moment, the Federation aligns more with your values. There, you can dictate to the government what they should or should not do. There, you can condemn what you consider the abhorrent practices of any race you so choose. There, you can decry the absence of free speech or peaceable assembly rights elsewhere.
But not here. Not unless you're at the top.
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |

Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.05.15 13:00:00 -
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Quote: "Caldari" and "Loyalist" does not come into the equation at any point. Claiming so is a poor attempt at comedy at best.
In the words of a friend, CAIN certainly do need to "Learn What It Means To Be Caldari"
Cold. Hard. Fact.
The State is not the people. The State is the will to whom all those people defer their individual autonomies in order to become and sustain a cohesive social construct. Boasting about how you circumvented the authorities to serve people, on matters the State had deemed settled or had reserved to settle themselves, shows how utterly bankrupt your comprehension of political bodies are--the State political body in particular.
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |

Father Abel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.05.16 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Father Abel on 16/05/2007 12:43:36 <Removed from to thread, due to broader issues raised.>
_____________________ Father Abel - Lieutenant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
"Private property makes a free man a free man." |
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